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BLOEMEN, BLOMEN

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  • Mar 31, 2024
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Updated: Aug 24

Von der Blömen.                                                     Explore parts of the family tree(s) as of 1600 BLOEMEN visiting Genwiki NL-Limburg BLOEMEN visiting P. Bloemen NL-OV/Friesland
Von der Blömen. Explore parts of the family tree(s) as of 1600 BLOEMEN visiting Genwiki NL-Limburg BLOEMEN visiting P. Bloemen NL-OV/Friesland





Family Crest or Coat of Arms


In 1848, Anton Fahne, a lawyer, historian, and genealogist, published Geschichte der Kölnischen, Jülichschen und Bergischen Geschlechter in ... . On page 212, he noted: "Blömen, von der features a 'Cleve' on the family crest" referring to the year 1385 in which a dispute was settled by the recruitment of the borthers Von der Blomen. An ö in the German language is pronounced OE in Dutch. Bloemen means flowers. Could it have been a town in Prussia?



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First , this shield's shape is late Gothic, dating back to the early 15th century, which is between 1400-1500. Regretfully the colours are not mentioned. At least in the association with the French Kingdom it was gold ("or", "yellow") and with an azure ("blue") background.


I believed this was a Fleur de Lis (Iris flower in Dutch Gele Lis), associated with the French Kingdom, symbolizing the Virgin Mary, purity, elegance, and harmony. Lis, in French, means I "read". Je "lis", I read. Flower of the reading.

Therefore, if this is a Cleve, then what is a Cleve (Gläve, Glefe, fauchard, fouchard, couteau de breche) ? In Dutch it seems some sort of Hellebaard and is a guardian - or war weapon. The Swiss guard at the Vatican still carry these.



Cleve is more French than Kleve in both German and Dutch. At the Landesbibliothemszentrum Rheinland-Pfalz/Recens Et Germana Bicornis, a European map from 1560 depicts the district of Cleven and the chirch town in Cleve, near Venlo in what is now the Netherlands, and Stra(e)len in what is now Germany (formerly Prussia):


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Left: Map 1560 all 8 cleves on the coat of arms safeguarding the heart sheald Right: Joos "van Cleve"  (of Joos van der Beke, alias van Cleve) selfportrait source: wiki holds a flower 1519


At the Dutch Centre of Family History CBG the following family crests on the female site of the family BLOEMEN:


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  • Reg.code: HLAKNL006050

  • Title: Bloemen

  • Remark: Alliantiewapen Bloemen/Rasch

  • Familyname

    • Bloemen

  • Material: lak

  • Source:

    • Zegelcollectie Van Epen: CB-VE-BLAV





This Bloemen shield is designed in the style of an "Empire shield" from the 18th and 19th centuries; somewhere between 1700-1900. The alliance shield - Rasch - follows the early Gothic style of the 13th and 14th centuries. It resembles the coat of arms of the Kingdom of Württemberg, which features a combination of the two, later three, (black) antlers and the (golden) deer. The helmet figures depict a deer and a bastard lion, possibly symbolizing the early Swabia district in Germany.


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  • "Reg.code: HLAKNL00164

  • Titel: Bloemen

  • Familyname

    • Bloemen

  • Material: lak

  • Source:

    • Lakzegelcollectie CBG: CB-I-1617"









Between the middle ages and the 18th century the coat of arms of women where usually oval-or diamond shaped adopted by women of noble birth and the upper middle class. The women could also decide to carry the coat of arms of the father, which was inherited.


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  • "Reg.code: HLAKNL017725

  • Title: Bloemen

  • Familyname

    • Bloemen

  • Weapon: gevierendeeld: I en IV een pot met drie gesteelde bloemen; II opnieuw gedeeld: 1 de Friese adelaar; 2 in zilver(?); III opnieuw gedeeld: 1 in zilver (?); 2 een halve adelaar, komend uit de deellijn

  • Material: lak

  • Source:

    • Lakzegelcollectie De Vries: ordnerdoos; 29007"




Emblem of the Holy Roman Empire, featuring the double-headed eagle surrounded by various coats of arms representing its diverse constituent states and territories.
Emblem of the Holy Roman Empire, featuring the double-headed eagle surrounded by various coats of arms representing its diverse constituent states and territories.

Including crest or coat of arms representing Schiavon in Italy,
Including crest or coat of arms representing Schiavon in Italy,
1400-1500              Crest (Coat of arms) featuring Schiavon's arm holding a Fleur de Lis or Cleve, with a striking red and black design above. Looks like a vile tongue wrapped in paper to me.
1400-1500 Crest (Coat of arms) featuring Schiavon's arm holding a Fleur de Lis or Cleve, with a striking red and black design above. Looks like a vile tongue wrapped in paper to me.












1592 - Coats of arms from the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam (Netherlands) displaying the heraldry of family Mark and Gulik following the extinction of the Cleves male line.
1592 - Coats of arms from the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam (Netherlands) displaying the heraldry of family Mark and Gulik following the extinction of the Cleves male line.
Medieval coin from the era of John Cleve (1300-1400), featuring intricate designs and historical inscriptions.
Medieval coin from the era of John Cleve (1300-1400), featuring intricate designs and historical inscriptions.
Coin marking the conclusion of the Duke of Cleve family's male lineage, adorned with detailed heraldic emblems and elaborate floral patterns.
Coin marking the conclusion of the Duke of Cleve family's male lineage, adorned with detailed heraldic emblems and elaborate floral patterns.














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The current coat of arms for the town of Cleve, Kleef in Germany may have partially incorporated the flower symbol from the female side of the Duke of Cleve.










Henry V (1386-1422), Henry VI (1421-1471). Source: UK Armorial 1880
Henry V (1386-1422), Henry VI (1421-1471). Source: UK Armorial 1880

Györ genus (Jeur) & Gyulay (de Gyula) I. a) -  Der Adel von Kroatien und Slavonien - (Hungary) Source: LOG_ 0018.pdf    Niedersächsische Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Göttingen - Nürnberg 1899 - author: Bojničić, Ivan von (left:1200-1400, right 1400-1500, both azur schield and or fleur the lis or cleve)
Györ genus (Jeur) & Gyulay (de Gyula) I. a) - Der Adel von Kroatien und Slavonien - (Hungary) Source: LOG_ 0018.pdf Niedersächsische Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Göttingen - Nürnberg 1899 - author: Bojničić, Ivan von (left:1200-1400, right 1400-1500, both azur schield and or fleur the lis or cleve)

Der Adel von Kroatien und Slavonien - Source:LOG_0018.pdf    Niedersächsische Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Göttingen - Nürnberg 1899 - author: Bojničić, Ivan von
Der Adel von Kroatien und Slavonien - Source:LOG_0018.pdf    Niedersächsische Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Göttingen - Nürnberg 1899 - author: Bojničić, Ivan von

source: nl.m.wikipedia.org - Heilige Roomse Rijk
source: nl.m.wikipedia.org - Heilige Roomse Rijk


v(on) Szerdahely sounds like fleur de lis and is a town in Slovenie (2025).
v(on) Szerdahely sounds like fleur de lis and is a town in Slovenie (2025).






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